Is traction control legal in 600's ?

Don't see any mention of "traction control" within the existing rules. It really wouldn't do you much good normally as you are spinning the wheels purposefully in the corners just like drifting. Driving on dirt is different than racing on pavement. On a slick surface you do limit the amount of wheel spin by seat of the pants.

Traction control is used in all forms of dirt track racing (legal or not). People go to great lengths to hide it. Don't think it is not being used in Micro racing.
Say cuz Gary.

Dont understand why though you would want Traction Control. That would just make you push, lik eyou wouldnt believe if it was set up corectly. I'm sure some may have messed with it, but doubt that you'll do anything with it unless it's on an extremely slick track. Then I may see some advantage to using it. But in most cases you would just push like crazy.

Ive heard of the idea of traction control used in dirt racing but never seen it done. Though i think if it was set-up right you may push a little but you could over compensate that with your car set-up. But i do have one question though, can you set-up traction control for one tire like for instance the left rear. Like in Formula 1 ive read that they have seperate settings to control only one tire at a time to increase traction off the turn. Just wondering if anyone knew anything about this, thanks

Some traction control devices don't use wheel sensors at all or any sensors for that matter, What the computer does is monitor the RPM's and keep them from spiking. When you run on a slick track as the tires bite then brake loose and bite again that causes your RPMs to bounce up and down (spike) This all happens so fast that you really don't feel it at all until the tires brake loose completely.
Here is where the traction control shines, It senses these spike and makes adjustments in milliseconds to them to a minimum.
If you saw your RPMs on a graph, the taller spikes can cause the tires to break loose, eliminate the taller spikes and you can get more power to the ground before the tires break loose. That is what the traction control box does, It smooths out the spikes allowing you to run the car harder anywhere on the track without breaking the tires loose so easily.
Think about the times that you run low and the rear end kicks out because the tires break loose,or you roll through the turn and just as you get back on the gas the rear end suddenly kicks out and you have to lift a little to get the car back under you and moving forward....The traction control would let you roll on the throttle and keep the car from kicking out in the first place.
If you drift the car through the corner the traction control will also allow you to reapply power much more smoothly than you could ever think about doing by feathering the throttle. It doesn't always keep the tires from breaking loose it just allows you to be much smoother with the throttle that it give you a big advantage over the guy who doesn't have traction control.

Without traction control you fight to regain traction while guy with the traction control is long gone!

I'm pretty sure that the new bazazz can be bought with traction control.

if you think it doesnt work on dirt, check this link out

http://www.moretraction.com/multimedia1.htm

merry chirstmas, steve

it is set on lap times, If you are out front or in clear traffic and are using a transponder you can use traction control.

On a true traction control system you can set up the amount of rotation speed difference you want. This means that you can set it for the amount of spin you want for track conditions or what your driver prefers. The most sophisticated systems are probably on GP motorcycles since F1 went
to a common ecu. Those systems are capable of wheelie control and well as spin. They do use wheel speed sensors though and the amount of changes they make are harder for the riders then handling and suspension adjustments. The Bazzazz system does have a rev control built in. A system could have rev control and you would have a hard time knowing without having access to the software coding.

Ive been researching this and found that Davis's technologies makes a very compact and workable traction control for dirt cars but for $2,000 i dont have the spare money to try it

Anyone tried a slipper clutch. Not factory crap a nice one like SMP makes for supermotard

this is one item i hope never becomes legal to use! there are people out there bitching about haveing to put bladders in there fuel tanks and having to buy other safety related items. imo racing with electronic traction control isn't racing besides you actually already have traction control in the car, it's your right and left foot learn to use them!

If you can't use both feet and the seat of uor pants, go drive someting like nascar .there it only involves money and politics.if peaple do put in traction control, it will be like watching a boring nascar race.

First we should bring in traction control then a drift box that counter steers for you like they have in rc cars. Then it won't take any driving skill and my grandma can race.:):) On the serious side we shouldn't allow traction control because it will just make it that the most money wins the race not the best driver.

I agree fully with you guys, i dont think it should be used at all and def. shouldnt be legal. just curious if it actually does anything to improve your car

Yes it could do a big improvement because you can dial them in with a computer to give you just the right amount of wheel spin to go around the turn and have a spike limit to keep the tires from snapping loose coming off the turn and on restarts. It would be a big advantage. But if people want to win like that they can and they will have to deal with the dishonesty. I mean how proud of yourself would you be if you knew you were cheating? But of course there are people out there who do cheat and I guess they don't care that they are and they don't feel bad about it.

Yea i'd feel the same way. It wouldnt feel the same way if you won with cheating motors and cheating electronics (like traction control). than it would if you won with a stock 600 and your right foot as traction control. To me that is a true win and shows the true skills of the driver-lucas

Traction control is LEGAL under current rules in the 600 class.

Is it really??:eek: I thought it wasn't??

Is it really??:eek: I thought it wasn't??


Feel free to look through the rules...

http://www.hyperracing.com/docs/2009%20U6SA%20Engine%20Rules.pdf

Wow i see , i sincerely apologized thought it wasn't,.. my bad-lucas

I think it is illegal in full size compititon but I know that some of the guys at Selinsgrove in 358's use it and if you been there you know who does and doesn't.
Just my 2 cents
Kenny

you talk about people using traction control is immoral and then it would be a boring race etc etc. (btw we dont use traction control in any of our cars we race) but here you got guys with cheater motors etc but that doesnt make it make it unfair.


dont get me wrong it is funny when people are running illegal motors and still run in the back but it is still the same point cheating is cheating.

Traction control is legal in most micro rules. It does not cost that much. Our Fuel mapping unit is availible with traction control for $600 more. You can buy both units and take the traction control off were it is not legal the systems are plug and play no wiring needed. Our traction control comes with a dash mount trim to turn it up or down to allow the amount of wheel spin you desire.

Feel free to give us a call at 260-357-9946

Regards, Dean